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Mitch's Forum Alt
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:24:00 -
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thanks for the dev blog, so far I'm liking what I read. the recent events had me quite alarmed and i did not renew the first round of my accounts that expired, awaiting CCP response first.
so, with the rewards program currently suspended and being looking at again in light of current happenings, i take it that the number of scorpion ishukone watch present in game now will remain stable and any new giveaways will be using new prizes, which are hopefully out of game or non-transferable? as some others mentioned prior, even some plex wouldn't be bad, as those can also be used for stuff like subscription or re-sculpts. just please, no more rare items! |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:25:00 -
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Rosen Thornn wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:In the future I would suggest sticking to gifting plexes and the like. No one (or at least not many) would have batted an eye if you gave Somer 30 plexes. Nex clothes would also work.
Giving out unique ships in a spaceship sandbox....eh......not the best idea. What is the difference between NEX clothes and IWS?
there is no difference. the monocles which PL and somer acquired are selling for billions on the forums and via contracts. the rarity of the item is what drives the demand, regardless or what the item actually is. |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:42:00 -
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Takari wrote:If the ISW Scorpion was created specifically as an item to be spawned and given away, that should be in its "Show Info" box. If people still want to spend tons of money on them, that's their own fault.
Still I support the creation of and giving away of a ship whose sole purpose was to be created and given away just as long as everyone knows or can easily know that this is the case.
i would be ok with this too. and if/when you do decide to resume giving stuff out, please please please have it be a new ship that is announced for that purpose beforehand. leave the amount of ISW in-game as is  |
Mitch's Forum Alt
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Posted - 2013.10.11 13:37:00 -
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I'm disappointed to see that it still seems as if CCP does not 'get it'... we don't want you giving stuff to people in-game that gives them any kind of advantage... the SIW is worth what it's worth because of it's rarity, if you look at the sell history people are clearly willing to pay huge amounts for it, even now. It doesn't matter if it only refines to 1trit if it can be easily converted to a t2 bpo or a supercap hull. Also, that thing about the SIW being announced to be a promo item... yeah, that was vaguely worded, over a year ago, and doesn't excuse handing out a full 33% increase in supply to one entity in complete secrecy, enabling them to engage in insider trading. Also, the response the what qualified Somer to receive so many handouts is evasive... we want better answers than they do cool stuff.... what were the exact criteria? Also, why do people keep forgetting about the monocles they also recieved? those are also selling for billions of isk... so that would make somer the recipient of 3 different handouts, a spotlight, and seemingly offical dev endorsement of legitimacy? show me on other entity receiving that kind of attention please. better yet, show a non-profit entity receiving anything close to that. all those handouts totalover 1tril in profit for somer easily. and all given in dubious circumstances. i'm sorry, but it still doesn't smell right to me.
Edit: oh, and one more thing... why would you give 15bil ships to individual corp members... who are only doing their jobs? they joined the corp to make easy isk, they get paid per hour as well as plex. they definitely do not join somer's corp to donate to charity, lol, they are already being rewarded through the insane profits blink makes and the compensation somer provides. devs are way out of line giving them all those free ships to do shady deals with. somer runs a purely for-profit corp, there is no charity in his actions, sponsoring anything is only marketing/advertising, not an altruistic action. |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 13:57:00 -
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Kalindra Chan wrote:The moment has come...
Thank you CCP for taking away my motivation to play Eve Online!
Somer blink actually cannot be blamed, because it is CCP alone allowing their lottery business.
I dont care about the few thousand dollars i put into plexes and collector editions..
The thing what makes me very sad is, that you took away the joy i had playing eve, which is.. i mean was such a great universe for a virtual life.
I know nobody cares, just wanted to let you know CCP and maybe i am not the only one... :(
you aren't the only one... i already let several accounts lapse due to this and am still debating what to do with the others as they come up for renewal. unfortunately, i do have to keep 2 accounts up for another month due to some in-game business (i keep my word, not gonna leave people holding the bag like CCP does), but depending on how this turns out, i may just let everything expire once that business is taken care of.
at the very least, i expect a complete halt in the issuance of SIW... not just a temporary stop... i'm talking a full, we're done, the units in game will be the only units in game type of deal. if you want to resume in the future, you do it with a new ship skin and announce it clearly and well ahead of time so that we don't have another situation with insider traders taking advantage of a falsely reported supply to sell their dev-spawned items for top dollar. of course, the truly correct thing to do would be to remove the 30 units given to somer from the game and reverse transactions on any of those issued that have been sold through dishonest means. |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:13:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:To those who say they are going to or may quit, I would ask them wait to see what CCP do about this...error of judgment.
Those of us who are opposed to the favouritism are against it precisely because we really care about and enjoy Eve Online, where success or failure is fought for (by whatever means) on a level playing field, where the same rules apply to all.
The likes of War Kitten and Jenn Aside et al, who constantly try to portray opposition to valuable/useful in-game freebies, as a jealously issue, simply serve to help me realize that as bad as I am at Eve, they are worse.
well, i am still here because i am giving CCP a chance to make it right, i'm just not feeling so optimistic after reading the replies in this thread that display lack of understanding of what is upsetting people. and no, i'm not jealous of the ships... i own one myself, and it wasn't spawned for me, it's one of the first run units that was handed out at the tourney. even if it were to completely lose all value, it wouldn't destroy my wallet or assets list, but that's not the point. the point is i actually had to work for my isk to be able to acquire one, and i didn't have any insider info to help me sell at an inflated price either. the devs giving somer the ships directly impacts my gameplay in that it devalues my items and gives me competition. if that is going to be the case, why would i want to bother doing things to earn isk when others are getting their stuff for free? |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:22:00 -
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T1nyMan wrote:
Paranoia is a ***** isn't it... Must be tough living with it.
Not once has guard said it was worth one trit. They have a refine value of one trit. He was speaking to the initial design of the item.
But I am seriously wasting my time here I can see. Hopefully though those that aren't so silly might see some benefit from it.
when i read the first responses on TCM and that other gaming site, they pretty much said them item is worth 1trit, lol.
and we've already established the original design of the item was for the Nex store and rest is just retconning on CCP's part |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:03:00 -
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Xtreem wrote:Thanks for the update.
Something that has annoyed alot of traders myself included is that previously when ships have been given out it was always kept at that number and more were not subsequently given out again so people could trade the commodity.
I and others will be out some considerable ISK as the change in the giving out of unique was not communicated.
it was communicated. to somer and employees. i believe they call what happened insider trading. |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:28:00 -
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Shad Duken wrote:Din Chao wrote:Shad Duken wrote:As for the "RMT" issue, I believe CCP has looked into it - or I hope so anyway - because they seem 100% positive that there has been no RMTing from SOMER. You hear that guys? Shad Duken "believes" and "hopes" CCP has looked into it because they "seem" like they think there isn't anything shady going on with SOMER. So shut up, ok? Thanks for proving my point about using reason. Rather than making a valid and reasoned response, you vilify me for having an opinion. GF m8.
i believe he was highlighting that you're operating on emotion rather than logic. 'believe' 'hope' 'seem' have no place in this discussion. we are seeking clear and concise answers, not vague reasoning and evasive wording |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:36:00 -
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Shad Duken wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:Shad Duken wrote:As several other people have said, SOMER were chosen primarily because they are, without any shadow of a doubt, THE most successful lottery site in EVE history. They may not be the longest running, but they've definitely made the most of what they've created. CCP have obviously looked at that success and said "Hey, they're the clear market leader, so let's use them to give out some stuff" because they have the capability of doing it and it getting to the largest playerbase.
It was more like, "Hey, they're the clear market leader, so let's cement that position by giving them a distinct advantage over their competition and drive even more people to their site. Oh, and an official endorsement of their reliability would help too!" You missed the point where BIG Lottery got given the ship months before to promote their site. Although I don't have facts and figures, I *can* categorically say that none of my friends in-game heard about BIG getting one of these ships (or any other promotions they've ever run) but everyone in my corp heard about SOMER's. Does that necessartily mean that BIG is inherently inferior to SOMER? NO. All it means is that more people have heard of and use SOMER than BIG. As I postulated before, perhaps that added visibility was the reason SOMER was chosen this time around.
so, they recieved free 15bil (more like 20bil as that was the price during their insider trading period) ships for personal use (read: selling for profit) because they're the most visible. is that what you're saying? |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:37:00 -
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Shad Duken wrote:StabThigh wrote:Shad Duken wrote:
Covering the "it's all RMTing because they make money off each referral" - so does every other site that refers you to a GTC site. CCP has clearly decided that this is acceptable for one reason or another (I'd guess because the site owners are having to pay RL cash for the sites?).
You missed the point. The point is not only that they make cash of each referrel, its that they offer isk for you to give them that cash. It's a fine line, but actually they offer you BLINK CREDIT - which is not an in-game item.
blink credit = isk |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:52:00 -
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Shad Duken wrote:
Isk can be converted into Blink Credits, but Blink credits cannot be converted (directly) to Isk.
sure they can. it's called buying every single ticket on a blink and cashing out the prize. |
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